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#1953145 - 08/14/14 06:18 PM
Re: Flood Insurance and Escrow Accounts
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January 2016 is the new date
Last edited by JWills; 08/14/14 06:18 PM. Reason: typo
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#1953767 - 08/15/14 06:51 PM
Re: Flood Insurance and Escrow Accounts
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As currently amended, when 2016 comes will it mean that banks that currently don't escrow any loans (except pre-existing HPMLs) under the rural/underserved exemption have to start escrowing flood loans (thereby ruining their rural/underserved exemption, which says that only those referenced 'pre-existing' HMPL loans could have escrow accounts and keep the exemption)? I didn't think so, but i've been having renewed doubts.
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#1953870 - 08/15/14 10:14 PM
Re: Flood Insurance and Escrow Accounts
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You will have to wait for the regulations to be issued, but the proposed regulations prior to the extension of the effective date basically exempted institutions under $1B in assets.
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#1953884 - 08/16/14 01:14 AM
Re: Flood Insurance and Escrow Accounts
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Thanks Randy.
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#1970337 - 10/17/14 07:30 PM
Re: Flood Insurance and Escrow Accounts
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Yes. If there is an escrow account, you are always required to escrow flood insurance premiums.
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#1970354 - 10/17/14 07:59 PM
Re: Flood Insurance and Escrow Accounts
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#1981971 - 12/09/14 08:57 PM
Re: Flood Insurance and Escrow Accounts
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You will have to wait for the regulations to be issued, but the proposed regulations prior to the extension of the effective date basically exempted institutions under $1B in assets. Randy, I just sat through the FDIC Teleconference where it stated that the exception for escrow had 3 requirements: 1. assets of less than $1B; 2. On or before 7-6-12 you were not required by law to escrow for a loan; and 3. Did not have a policy to require escrow of T&I. Since the 7-6-12 date in in the middle of the time that we were required to escrow for HPML, it looks like the only way you will be exempt from escrowing is if you did not do any HPML and have never done an escrow. Anyone else interpret it this way?
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#1982892 - 12/12/14 08:03 PM
Re: Flood Insurance and Escrow Accounts
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Queen Mum, that's how I read things too. I didn't see the exemption that David spoke of. Hopefully I just overlooked it. "The statute states that, except as provided by State law, regulated lending institutions that have total assets of less than $1 billion are excepted from this escrow requirement if, on or before July 6, 2012, the institution: (i) In the case of a loan secured by residential improved real estate or a mobile home, was not required under Federal or State law to deposit taxes, insurance premiums, fees, or any other charges in an escrow account for the entire term of the loan; and (ii) did not have a policy of consistently and uniformly requiring the deposit of taxes, insurance premiums, fees, or any other charges in an escrow account for loans secured by residential improved real estate or a mobile home." https://www.federalregister.gov/articles...od-hazards#h-16
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#1982900 - 12/12/14 08:28 PM
Re: Flood Insurance and Escrow Accounts
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1) is your exemption if you only escrowed when required to do so by regulation, i.e. HPMLs.
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#1982948 - 12/13/14 01:13 PM
Re: Flood Insurance and Escrow Accounts
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They have done a pretty good job of clarifying this in the proposed regulations. I guess it is different than I previously read it. If you were making HPML loans prior to 07/06/12, you are going to have to escrow going forward regardless of what your standard escrow policy might have been.
Therefore, if on or before July 6, 2012, the institution: (i) was not required under Federal or State law to deposit taxes, insurance premiums, fees, or any other charges in an escrow account for the entire term of any loan secured by residential improved real estate or a mobile home; and (ii) did not have a policy of consistently and uniformly requiring the deposit of taxes, insurance premiums, fees, or any other charges in an escrow account for any loans secured by residential improved real estate or a mobile home, the institution may be eligible for the small lender exception provided it meets the size threshold.
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#1983021 - 12/15/14 03:33 PM
Re: Flood Insurance and Escrow Accounts
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The date is the date of enactment of the Biggert-Waters Act. The regulators did not select the date, Congress did.
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#1985467 - 12/29/14 09:31 PM
Re: Flood Insurance and Escrow Accounts
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So, because we have some loans that are HPML, we will have to require all flood insurance premiums to be escrowed correct? Effective January 2016.
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#1985515 - 12/30/14 01:57 PM
Re: Flood Insurance and Escrow Accounts
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Me too Queen Mum. You know there always has to be something. Thanks!
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#1988432 - 01/13/15 08:04 PM
Re: Flood Insurance and Escrow Accounts
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Would this be for all loans that are required to have flood insurance or just the HPML's?
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#1988439 - 01/13/15 08:13 PM
Re: Flood Insurance and Escrow Accounts
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All loans.
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#1988443 - 01/13/15 08:20 PM
Re: Flood Insurance and Escrow Accounts
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But not until January 2016, correct?
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#1988509 - 01/13/15 09:58 PM
Re: Flood Insurance and Escrow Accounts
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That is correct.
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