I would be the source. I disagreed with Clinton's support for both the Communications Decency Act and the Line Item Veto Act, both of which I believed to be unconstitutional, and both of which were eventually declared unconstitutional.

According to Ron, you should have abstained from voting for him then.

What about DOMA?

Well, Ron and I disagree on things, too. He mentioned that he would have not voted for Sen. Clinton if she had been nominated. I was faced with that situation in reverse and had no problem voting for Obama. The differences between the two were minimal.

And of course, I will probably never agree with any candidate 100% of the time. That's just not realistic to expect.

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I disagreed with that as well.

NAFTA?

You can't be serious. Torture, warrantless wiretapping, violating the Geneva Convention, imprisoning US citizens without trial - those are all civil liberties issues! The ACLU gets considered to be liberal for standing up for the rights of the accused, don't they?

Bush's ideas on preemptive war aren't opposed by liberals???? Tax cuts geared to upper income levels aren't???? Limits on abortion and stem cell research aren't????

I supported NAFTA then and still do. Unemployment was over 7% when it passed and fell every year for seven consecutive years thereafter until it was at 3.9% for the last four months of 2000. 22 million new jobs were created. That isn't to say that NAFTA was responsible for those numbers, but those statistics are not compatible with the unsupported claim that NAFTA was a job-killer as some claim. The idea that unemployment could have gone lower than 3.9% is unrealistic.

like i said, my issues weren't policy, they were "leadership".

Judas

im sorry, swim, but it didn't look like he was saying "hey, i don't even like the guy or" "this guy isn't what i wanted at all but he was the lesser of two evils and you can thank me for looking out for you" at all.

If Ron wasn't serious, this would be so laughable...Leadership? Please...

how can somebody lead if they can get anybody (at least half) on board?

Well, of course he didn't. (that's your imagined perception, btw. No one I know has said that, only that some of what Bush has done was not conservative, non-military discretionary spending, NCLB, senior drug-benefit, open borders etc.) This is the guy that believes that not only the impeachment episode, but the actual sexual harrasment lawsuit itself was a "vast right-wing conspiracy." You are not alone with the man-crush thing.

FMLA?

the impeachment and sexual harassment episode WERE a vast right-wing conspiracy! are you kidding me?! if you would like me to be vocal when i see "impeach bush" comments, i will.

(although cheney might not get off so easy. w is probably clueless enough to not be aware but cheney may have actually "cooked the books" to borrow a phrase from another type of misdeed in the run-up to war. but then again, i'm really not that cynical with him.)

The impeachment may have been partisan, but I doubt it rises to conspiratorial. You obviously, based on your post, believe Paula Jones is a liar, but I don't recall seeing any "I Believe You, Paula" stickers whereas in the Bay Area, where I lived at the time, "I Believe You, Anita (Hill)" stickers were rampant. Did you you think Aniata Hill was telling the truth, or did you believe it was a "Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy"?

Removing rights is not a conservative ideology. Based on the definition of conservative, it cannot be. They are ideolgies that YOU have pegged based on what YOU want to believe. In fact, they are technically liberal. How about the removal of the right to bear arms?

NAMBLA?

That would be the ACLU.

For the North American Model Boat Lovers Association?

National Association of Marlon Brando Look-Alikes

what about abortion? wouldn't you unequivocally be removing the right of the female wrt her body, mr conservative? oh, you are only worried about the unborn's rights... :waits for "moral relativism" response graemlin:

by the way, who had 12/03 in the "when will abortion get brought up in this thread" pool?