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#1542278 - 04/28/11 12:39 AM
Re: Truth in Lending-Required Deposit Disclosure
jlroberts
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You'll find a better explanation in the commentary: See #4.
18(r) Required deposit. 1. Disclosure required. The creditor must inform the consumer of the existence of a required deposit. (Appendix H provides a model clause that may be used in making that disclosure.) Footnote 45 describes three types of deposits that need not be considered required deposits. Use of the phrase "need not" permits creditors to include the disclosure even in cases where there is doubt as to whether the deposit constitutes a required deposit. 2. Pledged account mortgages. In these transactions, a consumer pledges as collateral funds that the consumer deposits in an account held by the creditor. The creditor withdraws sums from that account to supplement the consumer's periodic payments. Creditors may treat these pledged accounts as required deposits or they may treat them as consumer buydowns in accordance with the commentary to § 226.17(c)(1). 3. Escrow accounts. The escrow exception in footnote 45 applies, for example, to accounts for such items as maintenance fees, repairs, or improvements, whether in a realty or a nonrealty transaction. (See the commentary to § 226.17(c)(1) regarding the use of escrow accounts in consumer buydown transactions.) 4. Interest-bearing accounts. When a deposit earns at least five percent interest per year, no disclosure is required under § 226.18(r). This exception applies whether the deposit is held by the creditor or by a third party. 5. Morris Plan transactions. A deposit under a Morris Plan, in which a deposit account is created for the sole purpose of accumulating payments and this is applied to satisfy entirely the consumer's obligation in the transaction, is not a required deposit. 6. Examples of amounts excluded. The following are among the types of deposits that need not be treated as required deposits: • Requirement that a borrower be a customer or a member even if that involves a fee or a minimum balance. • Required property insurance escrow on a mobile home transaction. • Refund of interest when the obligation is paid in full. • Deposits that are immediately available to the consumer. • Funds deposited with the creditor to be disbursed (for example, for construction) before the loan proceeds are advanced. • Escrow of condominium fees. • Escrow of loan proceeds to be released when the repairs are completed.
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#1542703 - 04/28/11 04:48 PM
Re: Truth in Lending-Required Deposit Disclosure
Glutes
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If the CD is not a requirement of the loan, then why do you have a security interest in the CD? Are you saying the loan is not dependant of the pledge of the deposit account and it is not a requirement to receive the loan???
You need to check the box on all CD loans if the interest rate on the CD is less than 5%.
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#1543093 - 04/28/11 09:00 PM
Re: Truth in Lending-Required Deposit Disclosure
Glutes
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he has a $10,000 CD with the Bank that he wants to pledge to the loan as collateral, we are not gonna say no. No, but as long as the CD is pledged as collateral you are going to require it stay on deposit, therefore it becomes a required deposit.
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#1850361 - 09/10/13 01:55 PM
Re: Truth in Lending-Required Deposit Disclosure
Glutes
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What if the pledged account is a savings account. Wouldn't the less than 5% rule apply?
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#1850378 - 09/10/13 02:15 PM
Re: Truth in Lending-Required Deposit Disclosure
Glutes
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Yes - it applies to any type of deposit account.
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#2120267 - 03/02/17 05:30 PM
Re: Truth in Lending-Required Deposit Disclosure
Glutes
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If a CD and the home (real estate) is used for collateral on a home purchase loan, must you check the "required deposit" box?
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#2120274 - 03/02/17 05:47 PM
Re: Truth in Lending-Required Deposit Disclosure
Glutes
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The loan would be subject to 1026.37 and 1026.38 and not 1026.18. There is no required deposit disclosure on an LE or CD.
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