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#1567939 - 06/21/11 10:22 PM
Overdraft Letter
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July 1st is quickly approaching, and I just realized, we may have customers hit the six overdrafts in a rolling 12 month period within a week! Our bank is using the targeted outreach approach since we don't have the ability on our system to send out personalized statement messages. Does anyone have a sample overdraft letter they would be willing to share?
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#1568769 - 06/23/11 03:54 PM
Re: Overdraft Letter
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It used to be that some bankers blamed policies and procedures on fictional connections to the USA PATRIOT Act. Your proposed letter is crediting a non-existent connection to the Dodd-Frank Act. I don't think that's good policy.
It's your bank's policy or procedure, regardless of the fact that it's based on Guidance (not law) from the FDIC (not Congress). Own up to it. Don't "blame" someone else.
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#1568862 - 06/23/11 05:00 PM
Re: Overdraft Letter
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"The devil made me do it." "The government made me do it." Same story, different century.
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#1568955 - 06/23/11 06:13 PM
Re: Overdraft Letter
BrianC
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Thanks oursisnottoreasonwhy, this is a good starting place.
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#1569169 - 06/23/11 08:42 PM
Re: Overdraft Letter
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Other than the reference to the outside source of the requirement, which I would not use, I think the rest of your letter seems excellent.
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#1570179 - 06/27/11 01:47 PM
Re: Overdraft Letter
Oursisnottoreasonwhy
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Can someone clarify something for me? Does the OD letter have to be sent after 6 times in the last 12 months? We feel like 6 is too small a #. Can we say for example...10 times in the last 12 months. I was thinking 6 was just an example. Is it part of the guidance?
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#1570426 - 06/27/11 05:45 PM
Re: Overdraft Letter
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Ken @ Pegasus would say "more than 6" which is = 7. And yes, more than 6 is a part of the "guidance" from the FDIC. 10 times in the last 12 months will get you in hot water FAST.
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#1571553 - 06/29/11 04:58 PM
Re: Overdraft Letter
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Yes. As unrealistic as you may feel the "more than 6 in 12" guidance is, it is the measure that FDIC examiners will be using when they check out your OD program.
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#1571810 - 06/29/11 08:09 PM
Re: Overdraft Letter
John Burnett
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ok...guidance says:
Monitor programs for excessive or chronic customer use, and if a customer overdraws his or her account on more than six occasions where a fee is charged in a rolling twelve month period, undertake meaningful and effective follow-up action, including, for example: *Contacting the customer (e.g., in person or via telephone) to discuss less costly alternatives to the automated overdraft payment program such as a linked savings account, a more reasonably priced line of credit consistent with safe and sound banking practices, or a safe and affordable small-dollar loan;4 and *Giving the customer a reasonable opportunity to decide whether to continue fee-based overdraft coverage or choose another available alternative.
Here's the question...If you call that customer according to this and that customer continues to be overdrawn and incurring fees for the next week, do you keep calling them each day? It is still a rolling 12 months. It sounds stupid and I figure we decide how we are going to handle it for ourselves but what is reasonable? What are other banks going to do?
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#1571910 - 06/29/11 09:59 PM
Re: Overdraft Letter
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I'm referring to the FAQs, section under Meaningful & Effective Follow-up. I interpret you have to continue contact unless the customer indicates a specific "preference regarding subsequent contact". If they indicate they don't want to be contacted again, then you're off the hook.
Looks like we'll be mailing a letter (unless our Core can come up with a way to add to statement very quickly) within 30 days after the 6 in 12 occurance & continue to do so unless the customer indicates they no longer want the letter.
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#1572014 - 06/30/11 12:37 PM
Re: Overdraft Letter
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We have a letter that will generate automatically but the guidance says to contact the customer in person or by telephone so we decided to call every 90 days after the first call at the 6 in 12 occurance unless there is an immediate resolution. I see this as eventually eliminating our automatic overdraft protection program.
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#1572022 - 06/30/11 12:49 PM
Re: Overdraft Letter
brainOverload
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Those are just examples...how you handle contact is up to the bank, IMHO.
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#1572025 - 06/30/11 12:50 PM
Re: Overdraft Letter
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Well after reading the FAQ (again) we may be changing our way of doing this all together.
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#1584734 - 07/28/11 06:37 PM
Re: Overdraft Letter
brainOverload
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Praise and glory, you have seen the "regulatory light" brother! It's what they were after in the beginning.
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#1835504 - 07/23/13 03:33 PM
Re: Overdraft Letter
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Does the 12 month period "reset" after sending a letter?
If a customer exceeds 6 occurrences and we send a letter and next week they have three more, do we send another letter at that point and keep sending with each OD until they tell us not to send them anymore?
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#1835560 - 07/23/13 04:35 PM
Re: Overdraft Letter
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Our counter resets after each letter. I the letters that are sent in Excel. If I have a customer who shows up alot on that list, I call them and discuss the program and their usage.
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#1835563 - 07/23/13 04:45 PM
Re: Overdraft Letter
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So just to be clear if you sent a letter today your 12 month period would start again and if the customer exceeds another six by the end of December you would send another letter?
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#1835610 - 07/23/13 06:02 PM
Re: Overdraft Letter
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Yes.
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