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#1962146 - 09/16/14 01:42 PM
Re: Everything is Going to Kill Us
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True, and I usually wouldn't think about it much, but I went to one of these live shows recently. Have kids who want to go to things like this. Am conflicted about taking them to such things ever again, because I don't want them to think these places are okay ways to treat these animals.
Haven't been paying much attention to this issue lately; is there evidence that Sea World is abusing animals, or is it just that they are kept in captivity and that whole deal, or something else?
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#1962271 - 09/16/14 06:03 PM
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Haven't been paying much attention to this issue lately; is there evidence that Sea World is abusing animals, or is it just that they are kept in captivity and that whole deal, or something else? I don't really know. According to Blackfish the documentary, in the "live animal show" industry: -The abuse starts when they capture the animals. Killer whales stay in the same social group for years, sometimes their whole lives, and they are relentlessly pursued so that they can be forcibly removed from that group, and they know it has happened and so does their mother and the rest of the group. -Almost any captivity is abuse. They are confined to very tight quarters, particularly at night when the tourists can't see them. They go into a small steel box, too small to even turn around in, and are kept in total darkness all night. They live to perform, for applause and a mouthful of fish. -Rebellious animals are separated from the others and they gradually go mad from loneliness and boredom. They're supposedly very intelligent and possibly more emotionally intelligent than humans. (I'd say their attempts to murder their trainers are possibly just an attempt to communicate that something is seriously wrong with their lives in captivity.)
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#1962289 - 09/16/14 06:19 PM
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Does that apply to Sea World, or smaller zoos and aquariums?
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#1962302 - 09/16/14 06:25 PM
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"SeaWorld has been facing strong opposition for some time from animal rights activists like PETA and others, which not long ago culminated in a controversial and strongly anti-SeaWorld documentary titled Blackfish in July of 2013. In the film, the park is criticized for practices and incidents, including trainer and audience safety accidents, and the use of an Orca that killed a trainer." http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Calif...nvestor-Lawsuit
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#1962307 - 09/16/14 06:29 PM
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Not sure I believe much of what PETA says...
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#1962496 - 09/17/14 02:26 PM
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CYM, if I may be so bold (and sorry if I missed the answer to this question amongst the insanity of this thread), are you married? If so, does your SO share these fears/concerns/quirks/eccentricities?
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#1962497 - 09/17/14 02:28 PM
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significant others can kill you
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#1962556 - 09/17/14 04:37 PM
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“Ain't no sense worryin' about the things you got control over, 'cause if you got control over 'em, ain't no sense worryin'. And ain't no sense worryin' about the things you don't got control over, 'cause if you don't got control over 'em, ain't no sense worryin'.”
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#1962808 - 09/18/14 02:18 PM
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CYM, if I may be so bold (and sorry if I missed the answer to this question amongst the insanity of this thread), are you married? If so, does your SO share these fears/concerns/quirks/eccentricities?
Yes. Yes, many of them.
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#1962811 - 09/18/14 02:26 PM
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There's nothing to worry about, except whether you're sick or well. If you're well, you've got nothing to worry about. If you're sick, your only worry is if you're going to live or die. If you live, there's nothing to worry about. If you die, the only thing to worry about is if you're going to heaven or [censored]. If you go to heaven, there's nothing to worry about. If you go to [censored], you'll spend so much time greeting your old friends, you won't have time to worry. So don't worry.
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#1962812 - 09/18/14 02:25 PM
Re: Everything is Going to Kill Us
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Aerosol cooking spray, because contains propellant, a neurotoxin. Mmm, nothing else gives home-cooked food the flavor of rocket fuel quite like a little blast of cooking spray on the nonstick pan. “Similarly, cooking spray, which is made from various types of oils combined with lecithin (an emulsifier), may use nitrous oxide as a propellant; other propellants used in cooking spray include food-grade alcohol and propane.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrous_oxidehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lecithin
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#1962825 - 09/18/14 02:50 PM
Re: Everything is Going to Kill Us
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Comply - do you just look for this stuff all day?
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#1963714 - 09/22/14 08:14 PM
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No. Unfortunately I could have come up with this entire list (minus the links) given a blank sheet of paper and a pencil, and about 20 to 30 minutes' time.
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#1963730 - 09/22/14 08:42 PM
Re: Everything is Going to Kill Us
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I actually agree with this one and try to limit my use of sponges. Be sure to visit Happy's poll on page 2 of this thread.
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#1963840 - 09/23/14 01:20 PM
Re: Everything is Going to Kill Us
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I find sponges less offensive than dishrags...no idea why. I do, however, include the sponge in the dishwasher load every time it gets run and nuke it every couple days in between DW runs.
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#1963858 - 09/23/14 01:59 PM
Re: Everything is Going to Kill Us
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I have to say, I thought that I was germaphobic, but CYM you have me beat by a mile. I wonder how you leave your house everyday!
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