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#2126604 - 04/17/17 08:17 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Will a player who did not destroy his phone (with potential evidence) get the same suspension as one who did? That is of course if the destruction of the phone was the legit reason for Brady's suspension.
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#2126679 - 04/18/17 01:59 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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I am sure Daddy Manning will make sure his precious Eli doesn't get in trouble for trying to rip off collectors.
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#2126749 - 04/18/17 04:47 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) TB 12
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I am sure Daddy Manning will make sure his precious Eli doesn't get in trouble for trying to rip off collectors.



I get the feeling someone is still sensitive about their favorite QB getting his share of the lime light.
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#2126753 - 04/18/17 04:58 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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As a Pats fan, I despise Eli for beating the Pats twice in the Super Bowl.

My comment is not based on being sensitive (they won twice after the alleged deflation of footballs), but is an observation based on prior acts.
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#2126764 - 04/18/17 05:26 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) RockChucker, CAMS
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Originally Posted By RockChucker, CAMS
Originally Posted By TB 12
I am sure Daddy Manning will make sure his precious Eli doesn't get in trouble for trying to rip off collectors.



I get the feeling someone is still sensitive about their favorite QB getting his share of the lime light.

It's more a matter of consistency. When Roger G spouts off about the integrity of the shield when laying down punishment for one team, then looks the other way when another team appears to be tarnishing that shield, it makes you wonder.
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#2126787 - 04/18/17 06:19 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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So I don't really follow sports very much, who is Daddy Manning anyways? I've heard of Eli and Payton, am I correct to assume it is their father? If it is their father, does he have influence on the NFL?

I really don't put the time in to know and the nitty gritty that goes on.
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#2126791 - 04/18/17 06:26 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Archie Manning-former NFL quarterback for the Saints.

When Eli was coming out for the draft, he was in line to be taken by the Chargers. Daddy didn't like that and felt a larger market (I don't recall if he was specifically holding out for the Giants or any large market team) was better for Eli and told the Chargers not to waste the pick as Eli would not sign for them... blah blah.

There were also rumors that Daddy helped Peyton cover up his alleged improprieties while he was at Tennessee (sexually harassing a female athletic trainer).
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#2126894 - 04/19/17 10:25 AM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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There were also rumors that Daddy helped Peyton cover up his alleged improprieties while he was at Tennessee (sexually harassing a female athletic trainer).

There is less proof of that than the deflated football issue.
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#2126896 - 04/19/17 10:40 AM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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#2126907 - 04/19/17 12:13 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Ed, please note I used the words rumors and alleged.
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#2126951 - 04/19/17 02:18 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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#2127015 - 04/19/17 04:44 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) TB 12
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Originally Posted By TB 12

When Eli was coming out for the draft, he was in line to be taken by the Chargers. Daddy didn't like that and felt a larger market (I don't recall if he was specifically holding out for the Giants or any large market team) was better for Eli and told the Chargers not to waste the pick as Eli would not sign for them... blah blah.



If memory serves me right. I believe he was actually drafted by San Diego, then traded to NY in fairly lucrative deal for SD.
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#2127027 - 04/19/17 05:04 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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#2127029 - 04/19/17 05:06 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) TB 12
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Ed, please note I used the words rumors and alleged.


She had made 27 and then increased to 33 allegations against the team so why only mention one?
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#2127030 - 04/19/17 05:07 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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from CBS sports.com:

In the weeks leading up to the 2004 draft, Chargers then-general manager A.J. Smith made no secret that Manning was his guy -- except that days before the first round was to get underway Manning, through his agent, said he had no plans to play for the Chargers.

"He told me that Archie [Manning, Eli's father] wishes that we do not select Eli and that they think he would be a good fit in New York [with the Giants]," Smith told the San Diego Union-Tribune on April 22, 2004. "We understand his position and certainly understand his interest in New York, but we will do what we think is the best for the franchise, without a doubt.
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#2127067 - 04/19/17 06:32 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) edAudit
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Ed, please note I used the words rumors and alleged.


She had made 27 and then increased to 33 allegations against the team so why only mention one?


Cuz I fellt like it.
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#2127195 - 04/20/17 12:34 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Arron Hernandez

His suicide may have cheated his guilty verdict as he is still in the appeal process.
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#2127306 - 04/20/17 05:43 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Interesting quote in the Orlando Sentinel this morning:

“O.J. was a football player who committed murder. Hernandez was a murderer who happened to play football.”

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/fl...0420-story.html
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#2127310 - 04/20/17 06:04 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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The guy was a complete scumbag. At least the taxpayers of Massachusetts will save money.
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#2127321 - 04/20/17 06:28 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) TB 12
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The guy was a complete scumbag. At least the taxpayers of Massachusetts will save money.


they most likely will have to throw out otherwise completely good bed sheets.
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#2127326 - 04/20/17 06:30 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Since by Mass standards he may not be considered guilty I suppose his estate can sue for wrongful death and then the patriots for the balance of his salary.
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#2127495 - 04/21/17 03:42 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Will a player who did not destroy his phone (with potential evidence) get the same suspension as one who did? That is of course if the destruction of the phone was the legit reason for Brady's suspension.


to the original question, the big issue was the NFL getting their cut for Eli authorized NFL memorabilia. If the answer is yes, minimal issue. if the answer is no, the NFL will come down like on him like a bunch of retirees at Golden Corral on "all you can eat shrimp night".
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#2127900 - 04/25/17 04:57 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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#2127908 - 04/25/17 05:10 PM Re: More NFL Cheaters (not the Patriots this time) HappyGilmore
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Good thing it Is not MLB or it would be banned for life
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