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#2297779 - 05/31/24 07:02 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Mel in WA
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It is my understanding that if your ATM does not accept deposits or offer access to non-deposit products, you do not have to use the digital sign.
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#2297791 - 05/31/24 10:33 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Mel in WA
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Most if not all the questions in this thread were answered in the FDIC seminar yesterday. I highly recommend attending the next sessions that will be offered. Helped me a lot. I'm putting together my action plan and have a much better understanding of the requirements.

We are waiting on our vendor to update us on how they will be adding the Digital Official Sign to our mobile app. There can be no wrapping of the text. It can be scaled proportionately, but must be legible.
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#2297808 - 06/03/24 12:50 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs JWills, CRCM
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Are you referring to the one with the white logo and text?

The final rule reads: If the official FDIC digital sign in these colors would be illegible due to the color of the background, the final rule requires
the “FDIC” and the one line of smaller type to the right of “FDIC” to both be displayed in white (hexadecimal color code #FFFFFF).

Technically, I don't think the "colors would be illegible due to the color of the background" using the original image here but there is the above that allows for the white logo and text.

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#2297809 - 06/03/24 01:06 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Mel in WA
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Thanks for the clarification!
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#2297926 - 06/05/24 02:16 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs JennKK2
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While there is not a NOT, NOT, May statement on that page, there are no non-deposit products touted there. Each of the pages linked on that page that include non-deposit products do have NOT, NOT, May statements, however, and I noticed there is no mention of FDIC membership on those pages.

As for the white text against dark red background on one of the other sites, I think it is more legible than navy blue and black against the dark red, so I think it passes muster.
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#2297928 - 06/05/24 02:26 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Mel in WA
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Did anyone who attended the FDIC webinar on the 30th of May get any feedback from the FDIC on how to make the FDIC official digital sign work on a bank's smartphone banking app?
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#2297937 - 06/05/24 03:39 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Boss Fan
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Originally Posted by Boss Fan
Good Afternoon,

In re-reading 328.4(a) (see below), I am still questioning if this applies to my situation since my bank's ATMs do not and will not accept deposits. It is only a dispenser of cash.

Scope. This section governs signage for insured depository institutions' automated teller machines or other remote electronic facilities that receive deposits.

What am I missing?

I obviously did not read your earlier post carefully, since you clearly said your ATMs do not accept deposits and will not do so.

As noted, section 328.4 only applies to ATMs and similar machines that accept deposits. So there is no FDIC signage requirement at all for an ATM or similar machine that does not accept deposits.
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#2297938 - 06/05/24 03:40 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Mel in WA
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Unless, of course, the FDIC changes the rule at some later date.
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#2297947 - 06/05/24 05:07 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs John_Burnett
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Okay John - I nearly spit my coffee all over my laptop laughing. That was good. I read a lot of snark into it.

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#2297950 - 06/05/24 06:29 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Mel in WA
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Moi? Snarky? Guilty as charged!
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#2298082 - 06/07/24 11:41 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Mel in WA
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On 5/31 I sent an email to the address provided during the webinar to receive the official digital sign. I have had no response. Has anyone else received a response. I also checked on FDICconnect and I could not locate it in the catalog. Anyone have any luck with either?
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#2298091 - 06/10/24 12:51 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Mel in WA
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I sent an email through FDIC connect, and I have received the digital sign.
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#2298103 - 06/10/24 05:00 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Mel in WA
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Thanks! I will try that route!
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#2298113 - 06/10/24 07:37 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Mel in WA
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Okay - I feel pretty dumb asking this, but how do you send an email through FDICConnect? I log on all the time to get to EFX and Consumer Complaints, and I can get to the catalog, but I don't see where to send an email through the system itself.
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#2298118 - 06/10/24 09:27 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Mel in WA
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Took me a minute too. There is a Contact Us. I completed it and received an email that said:

Good afternoon,

Thank you for contacting the FDIC regarding your recent inquiry on 6/10/2024.

Your inquiry was forwarded to the appropriate subject matter expert for handling. Please be on the look out for a follow up email regarding your inquiry.

If you have any other questions or concerns, please contact our toll-free 1-877-ASK-FDIC (1-877-275-3342).

Should you need to contact us again regarding this matter, your reference number 01742278 will expedite our response.

Sincerely,

FDIC Contact Center
Division of Administration
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
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#2298126 - 06/11/24 01:15 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Mel in WA
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I did receive it within a couple of weeks. That surprised me.
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#2298232 - 06/12/24 05:27 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Mel in WA
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We actually received a response to our original email request: Requested information on 5/31, received a response on 6/11.
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#2299397 - 07/16/24 06:39 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Mel in WA
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Any thoughts on ATM receipts? Our marketing team, wasting no opportunity, has an ad preprinted on the back of the receipt tape. My first reaction is that this is paper, not digital, and so will not need an update. But I want to make sure I am not missing some finer point about displaying Member FDIC on an ATM receipt.

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#2299399 - 07/16/24 07:01 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Mel in WA
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Well, there is nothing in new § 328.6(d) that specifically exempts receipts, whether they are receipts for deposits made in person or receipts from an ATM. I think you can make a case for including them in 328.6(d)(2) as bank supplies, however.

That said, I have to wonder why anyone would argue against including "Member FDIC" or "FDIC-insured" (the new "short title") with the ad printed on the back of the receipts. It can't be a matter of an increased cost to include it. On the other hand, what does the ad say? If that same ad were printed in a newspaper, would it need to have the FDIC short title included? Do the ads rotate on the roll of receipt paper (for example, a series of 6 short ads that are printed in sequence on the back of 6 receipts, then repeated for the full length of the receipt roll).

And at the end of this response, I'll suggest that it is a very low-risk issue whether it's included in those ATM receipt ads.
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#2299942 - 07/31/24 07:20 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Mel in WA
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Has anyone been able to successfully find on FDIC connect where to download the digital version?

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#2300318 - 08/08/24 08:19 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Mel in WA
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Our ATMs only provide balance information, allow transfers between deposit accounts, and have withdrawal capabilities. Would the transfer capability be considered a deposit-taking channel which requires the FDIC sign to be displayed?

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#2301496 - 09/10/24 06:28 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs lucasta
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I am wondering the same thing after the last FDIC webinar and answer to the ATM Question #2 in the FDIC's Q&As.
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#2301508 - 09/10/24 07:48 PM Re: FDIC Logo Changes - Digital Sign on ATMs Amber
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I emailed the FDIC directly and they sent it to me.
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