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#629483 - 10/26/06 07:43 PM
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Just asking.
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#629485 - 10/26/06 07:52 PM
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How is that a cheap shot? You clearly indicated that you recognized Science as an authority, and did not recognize the Bible as authoritative. The implication is that, if there is a conflict--whether perceived or real--between the two, you will take the word of Science.
My point was that, since you and I apparently appeal to different authorities, we will no doubt differ on issues. Knowing that will factor into how and when I may choose to debate you.
I felt your implication was that the two can't co-exist and IMO they can. Quite nicely.
In my opinion, they co-exist quite nicely, too. Sorry my initial terseness lead to lack of clarity.
No harm then. I don't know if you have noticed this, but there are some people on this board who are very rigid in their thinking. 
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#629488 - 10/26/06 08:01 PM
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I have to agree with Rainman and TICG that it would be best to make marriage a religious right and make the legal end of it called a civil union for everyone.
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#629489 - 10/26/06 08:06 PM
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So, just because something doesn't affect my particular situation, I shouldn't have an opinion on it? Like, say, I haven't ever been robbed, so I shouldn't be voting that robbers should go to jail?
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#629490 - 10/26/06 08:06 PM
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A family is easily defined by a child. Why is that adults have a hard time with the concept?
Because adults are smarter? Children eat dirt! They stick anything that will fit into their mouth. You want them to define food too?
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#629492 - 10/26/06 08:08 PM
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A family is easily defined by a child. Why is that adults have a hard time with the concept?
Because adults are smarter? Children eat dirt! They stick anything that will fit into their mouth. You want them to define food too?
I think Michael should define things.
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#629493 - 10/26/06 08:08 PM
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: ____________ can marry more than one person but I can not."?
It's not that hard. Single people can marry more people than they currently have, why can't I?
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#629495 - 10/26/06 08:10 PM
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The sound bites I heard on NPR today would indicate that (for both sides) what you call it is a big deal.
As would the opinions of the dissenters on the court. Those who dissented did so, not because they disagreed with the general idea, but because they think the majority did not go far enough; they wanted it called "marriage."
I found that quite interesting.
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#629496 - 10/26/06 08:11 PM
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And FWIW, I think people were procreating before marriage was ever invented. 
FWIW, you are incorrect. The first marriage, of Adam and Eve, was reported in Genesis 2. The first procreation, of Cain and Abel, was reported in Genesis 4.
Not incorrect according to Science.
Ok, show me some "SCIENCE" that indicates when people first married and when they first had sex! Pfffft
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#629497 - 10/26/06 08:12 PM
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Single people can marry more people than they currently have, why can't I?
Hey, I think you're on to something...
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#629499 - 10/26/06 08:33 PM
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: ____________ can marry more than one person but I can not."?
It's not that hard. Single people can marry more people than they currently have, why can't I?
It's not hard if you change the question entirely, but that isn't what I asked, is it?
Who can legally marry more than one person at a time????? Until you can answer that there is no equal protection argument for polygamy.
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#629500 - 10/26/06 08:41 PM
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Who can legally marry someone of the same sex????? Until you can answer that there is no equal protection argument for same sex marriage.
Same argument - different group, that's all.
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#629501 - 10/26/06 08:41 PM
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I don't think that allowing gay unions will tarnish my marriage. We should be happy that there are people who want to be legally recognized as a couple. This is not a religious issue, it's about a piece of paper giving them permission to share each other's responsibilities. What is really wrong with that? Looking at the big picture, is it really going to make a huge difference...not really.
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#629503 - 10/26/06 08:59 PM
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With the divorce rate as high as it is, I keep wondering why gay couples want to join an institution that is suffering.
They should every right to be as miserable as everyone else.
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#629504 - 10/26/06 09:04 PM
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Why do people marry at all? They can be committed to one another without the paper work. But if they are christian then they marry to avoid fornication i guess
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#629505 - 10/26/06 09:10 PM
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Why do people marry at all? They can be committed to one another without the paper work. But if they are christian then they marry to avoid fornication i guess
You say fornication like it was a bad thing...
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#629506 - 10/26/06 09:14 PM
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Oh I'm no hypocrite I wasn't saying it as if it were bad. I was just saying that'may be one factor of people marrying
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#629507 - 10/26/06 09:21 PM
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Oh I'm no hypocrite I wasn't saying it as if it were bad. I was just saying that'may be one factor of people marrying
Ok, just want to make sure you're in favor of fornication 
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