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#942415 - 04/15/08 06:49 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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I'd just like to note that our gas has been above $3.39/gallon for many weeks now.
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#942435 - 04/15/08 07:11 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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Shaving off $0.184 tax for a 25 gallon fill up only saves you $4.60. It isn't the tax that is ridiculous, it is the price of gas.
The first thing I thought when I heard McC's suggestion on the news this morning is that it is about the dumbest idea I've heard yet. That is a huge source of income for the government. How do they expect to replace it? Are we just going to go further into debt with China? Will our grandchildren be born with a stamp across their bottoms "Made in China"?
But, for that matter, I'd like to ask any of the current candidates and GWB when was the last time any of them filled up their car with their own money and then went to the grocery store and bought their own groceries? None of them are in touch with the American public. They are insulated by aides, Secret Service, schedules and transportation being provided to them.
Every holiday, the fuel price inches up. Every season, the fuel price inches up. Sometimes it leaps. But when the market price of a barrel of crude drops significantly, the fuel price at the pump doesn't budge. The oil companies are making record profits. They claim greater expenses, but those record profits are net, not gross, so the expenses are already out of the equation. They are just raking it in and lying to the public and Congress.
The next time Congress calls up the heads of major oil, they should try waterboarding.
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#942451 - 04/15/08 07:23 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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Why not try investing in America's infrastructure and building lightrail systems between larger cities and suburbs. It'll put laborers to work building the lines and stations, and the finished product will reduce dependence on oil. Win/win if you ask me.
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#942461 - 04/15/08 07:36 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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MJ,
It's not just shaving $4.60 a fill up off your gas. By cutting that tax, and at the same time reducing purchases of oil by the government for reserves, you change supply and demand. Where's the money coming from? Increased spending by the consumers paying taxes elsewhere. Reduced spending on petroleum reserves. [quote=Bengalsfan] That makes about as much sense as thinking that people who are cash strapped and financially hardened are going to put their stimulus check into the economy. If we're that strapped for cash and in debt, I'd put that money towards paying down my debt. You think people are going to spend that $4.60 elsewhere? Like on what? An extra Value Meal from McDonald's? Give me a break...
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#942462 - 04/15/08 07:37 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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Why not try investing in America's infrastructure and building lightrail systems between larger cities and suburbs. It'll put laborers to work building the lines and stations, and the finished product will reduce dependence on oil. Win/win if you ask me. Hush now. No need for COMMON SENSE around these parts.
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#942467 - 04/15/08 07:41 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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Why not try investing in America's infrastructure and building lightrail systems between larger cities and suburbs. It'll put laborers to work building the lines and stations, and the finished product will reduce dependence on oil. Win/win if you ask me. There are already train lines between larger cities. Perhaps you've heard of Amtrack? People don't use them enough to justify building even more.
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#942476 - 04/15/08 07:46 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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The oil companies aren't raping anyone, worldwide demand is the highest it has ever been, contributing significantly to the rise in fuel cost.
Alternatives to oil are great, as are infrastructure suggestions, but these are long-term solutions that will not satisfy the crybabies of the populace overnight. Furthermore, in the interim, we still need to lower taxation on oil to help as well as invest in more efficient refineries (SHAM SHAME SHAME cried the dems for that)so that the cost of production of oil lowers over time and is passed on to the American consumer.
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#942484 - 04/15/08 07:50 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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I think the govmint should set profit limits on the oil companies.
I also think they should provide for my health care. I just hope that should I need a new kidney some day, that the bureaucracy doesn't interfere so much that my records are switched with someone who is in for a sex change operation.
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#942501 - 04/15/08 08:03 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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The government should do my shopping for me, both grocery and clothes too. It is only fair, or I'll feel bitter and turn to religion more devoutly.
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#942507 - 04/15/08 08:07 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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ROFLMAO @ WD
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#942513 - 04/15/08 08:12 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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The government should do my shopping for me, both grocery and clothes too. It is only fair, or I'll feel bitter and turn to religion more devoutly. And of course go out and buy a gun....
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#942516 - 04/15/08 08:14 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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The government should do my shopping for me, both grocery and clothes too. It is only fair, or I'll feel bitter and turn to religion more devoutly. And of course go out and buy a gun.... Should have to go out and buy a gun. The government should provide that for me toO!
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#942519 - 04/15/08 08:14 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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Oh yeah, you're totally right, sorry.
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#942520 - 04/15/08 08:15 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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there shouldnt have to be any buying of guns, there should be "auto-guns" at every street corner that shoots bad people whenever they walk by
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#942522 - 04/15/08 08:16 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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If the government was doing all of that for you, you wouldn't have the energy or inclination to shoot a thief to protect your family. Why spend the money on a gun? The government would just buy you more stuff to replace what was stolen!
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#942523 - 04/15/08 08:16 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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It's not about $4.60. It's about perception. Without this step, gas prices will be over $3.50 a gallon for certain this summer. People are already looking at this and saying "I'm not going to take my vacation and leave town this year.".
Perception? Perception? Right because Joe Sixpack, who lost his job to India because of better profit opportunities for the company, is going to finally be able to afford that family vacation because John McCain is going to cut taxes for about 4 months. I'm sure he's thrilled to know that...
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#942528 - 04/15/08 08:19 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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It's not about $4.60. It's about perception. Without this step, gas prices will be over $3.50 a gallon for certain this summer. People are already looking at this and saying "I'm not going to take my vacation and leave town this year.".
Perception? Perception? Right because Joe Sixpack, who lost his job to India because of better profit opportunities for the company, is going to finally be able to afford that family vacation because John McCain is going to cut taxes for about 4 months. I'm sure he's thrilled to know that... That job likely does not go to India if the U.S. givernment is not taxing the bujeeezuz out of the company, making it more operationally efficient and profitable to move the operations to India. So Joe Sixpack has no problem finding a new job...
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#942530 - 04/15/08 08:20 PM
Re: Democratic Nominees Denounce cutting Gas Prices!
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I like Indian food. There! I said it!
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