Your parsing of the materiality standard may be accurate, but then again it may not.

Well, anyone is free to make the argument that the Lewinsky matter was material, but I'm not sure what that would be. But it is not just "parsing" - perjury is a legal term and materiality is an essential element of the charge. No materiality, no perjury. Libby was convicted because he committed the crime.

I disagree somewhat with your statement that the Plame matter was a "politically motivated, meritless" investigation. The CIA requested the investigation, remember. They have a strong interest in protecting their agents and front companies from being outed. Libby may not have been a big fish, but the investigation was necessary.

If there was nothing wrong with he did, why was his license revoked?

Now you are changing what you claimed from "criminal" and committing "perjury" to "nothing wrong". In fact, his license was suspended for five years for making misleading statements in the deposition.

The "misleading" part comes from the fact that he was given a definition of the term "sexual relations" that was drafted by Jones counsel that did not include oral sex.

Under the definition approved by U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright during his deposition, "a person engages in 'sexual relations' when the person knowingly engages in or causes contact with the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person."

Lie???? Point out where that definition says "mouth".

Did Clinton have sexual relations with Lewinsky under that definition? He would have had to contact her "genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks". That didn't happen. If they had asked the question of Lewinsky it would have been true, but not when asked of Clinton.

Thanks for posting the definition, J!!!! Great way to prove my point.

he did "this" but not "that" when she says he did

didn't Mr. Clinton acknowledge fondling certain areas of Ms. Lewinsky that would meet the def?

Not that I've ever heard.

What are you talking about????? She says she performed oral sex but not intercourse. Where does this idea come from that she says something contrary to what he said?

If you can find something that fits the definition, what is it?

According to Ms. Lewinsky, she performed oral sex on the President on nine occasions. On all nine of those occasions, the President fondled and kissed her bare breasts. He touched her genitals, both through her underwear and directly, bringing her to orgasm on two occasions. On one occasion, the President inserted a cigar into her [censored]. On another occasion, she and the President had brief genital-to-genital contact.(42)

The fact that Clinton would have denied it