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#1069154 - 10/23/08 01:51 PM
Re: McCain's "Pattern of Deceit" (in Tax Arguments)
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no more deceitful than your ignoring this portion of the article ``Both John McCain and Barack Obama endlessly repeat tax talking points that are disingenuous at best, outright falsehoods at worst,'' said Paul Caron, associate dean of faculty at the University of Cincinnati College of Law, who tracks the candidates' tax plans
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#1069177 - 10/23/08 02:03 PM
Re: McCain's "Pattern of Deceit" (in Tax Arguments)
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This just in...Ron Mexico think's Obama has no original thoughts and is not a leader...see quote below: i also believe that he (McCain) is leading and obama is essentially responding in kind
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#1069180 - 10/23/08 02:05 PM
Re: McCain's "Pattern of Deceit" (in Tax Arguments)
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(i also believe that he is leading and obama is essentially responding in kind) Of course you do...because you live in Obamaland where he can do no wrong. In this land, are you allowed to kiss his royal feet, or must you stand at distance in awe of his perfectness?
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#1069191 - 10/23/08 02:10 PM
Re: McCain's "Pattern of Deceit" (in Tax Arguments)
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(i also believe that he is leading and obama is essentially responding in kind) Of course you do...because you live in Obamaland where he can do no wrong. In this land, are you allowed to kiss his royal feet, or must you stand at distance in awe of his perfectness? thanks, banana. you always seem to make such valuable contributions. this thread isn't about who started it. this thread is about the lies to the public to win public office. i opined that, wrt taxes, mccain started the lies but the fact of the matter is that the lies exist and currently, they are the centerpiece of mccain's campaign. do you really want to support somebody whose key argument right now is a lie?[/rhetorical]
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#1069226 - 10/23/08 02:34 PM
Re: McCain's "Pattern of Deceit" (in Tax Arguments)
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but bugs, you seemed to believe mccain's deceit from conversations that we have had. socialism? really? that's what increasing the max marginal rate by a couple % points is?
or is it "spreading the wealth"? really? take a look at the gini index 8 years ago and compare it with today if you want to see exactly where the wealth has been spread. i'm sorry bugs but the numbers don't lie. macroeconomics tell the truth.
Ron, you're taking this thing waaay too seriously. Relax. Take some time to enjoy the fact that you're engaged. Find a hobby to expand your creativity. If you lived closer to me, I'd give you guitar lessons. You just don't seem to get it that elections are not about facts, they are about emotions. You won't sway people by appealing to their brains, you have to appeal to their hearts.
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#1069233 - 10/23/08 02:41 PM
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There's more than enough deciet to go around this election. Nobody can claim the high ground, I think.  Exactly. McCain E., do you really think that the entire truth is being told from either side? I am not so naive to think that what either candidate is saying is purely factual. That is unfortunately the nature of politics in our world. You and I have extreme differing opinions on who we support and the direction that we apparently want our nation to go. That is not my problem with your posts; my issue is with your apparent blinders when it comes to anything remotely associated with Obama. You refuse to acknowledge that he might, just might, be wrong about anything. That behavior is the proverbial ::fingers in ears:: "LAH LAH LAH". That type of blind following scares me period, regardless of party or candidate affiliation.
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#1069239 - 10/23/08 02:45 PM
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Very insightful for a new poster. Heck, very insightful period.
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#1069241 - 10/23/08 02:45 PM
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There's more than enough deciet to go around this election. Nobody can claim the high ground, I think. Exactly. McCain E., do you really think that the entire truth is being told from either side? I am not so naive to think that what either candidate is saying is purely factual. That is unfortunately the nature of politics in our world. You and I have extreme differing opinions on who we support and the direction that we apparently want our nation to go. That is not my problem with your posts; my issue is with your apparent blinders when it comes to anything remotely associated with Obama. You refuse to acknowledge that he might, just might, be wrong about anything. That behavior is the proverbial ::fingers in ears:: "LAH LAH LAH". That type of blind following scares me period, regardless of party or candidate affiliation.
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#1069257 - 10/23/08 02:56 PM
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i am talking about mccain, banana. i guess that you can make an argument that because of this, i am indirectly talking about obama. it's not a very good argument but i guess that you can make it.
in case you missed it, the thread title is with every post in this thread. if you'd like, start a thread about obama's tax-related lies.
i really wish that you knew how to discuss issues. i know that you only have 23 posts though so maybe discussing issues is a learning experience for you. Oh, burn! Oh...it hurts so bad! 
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#1069260 - 10/23/08 03:02 PM
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i am talking about mccain, banana. i guess that you can make an argument that because of this, i am indirectly talking about obama. it's not a very good argument but i guess that you can make it.
in case you missed it, the thread title is with every post in this thread. if you'd like, start a thread about obama's tax-related lies.
i really wish that you knew how to discuss issues. i know that you only have 23 posts though so maybe discussing issues is a learning experience for you. You're a joke, Ron. You have the nerve to tell a new poster who has immediately recognized your blinders that they don't know how to discuss issues? YOU don't know how to discuss issues. You willfully ignore inconvenient truths about your candidate, refuse to read his not one, but two memoirs, one of which shows he is clearly bucking to run for office, and the other shows he's is more concerned with Black America than America and is quite the racist. You want to ignore his poor judgement in his associations, and any and all issues that could make him look bad. You are capable only of posting sound bites that are anti-McCain or pro-Obama is they are spoon fed to you.
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#1069264 - 10/23/08 03:05 PM
Re: Ron's "Pattern of Deceit" (on McCain/Obama)
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in case you missed it, the thread title is with every post in this thread. if you'd like, start a thread about obama's tax-related lies.
Why should he/she? It's entirely relevant to your little diatribe that Obama is engaging in precisely the same type of rhetoric. (In fact, he's probably better at it!) If there were a Truth in Posting Act, the title of this thread would actually be: Ron's "Pattern of Deceit" in Discussing McCain and Obama
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#1069266 - 10/23/08 03:07 PM
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i think that you are joking but in case you are not, that comment that you quoted was about the subject of this thread: misleading tax arguments. ie mccain is swinging for the fences with his deceit and obama has to respond in kind. so if I understand you correctly, Obama has to lie because McCain is lying?
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#1069267 - 10/23/08 03:08 PM
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... You are capable only of posting sound bites that are anti-McCain or pro-Obama is they are spoon fed to you. Irony much?
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#1069268 - 10/23/08 03:10 PM
Re: Ron's "Pattern of Deceit" (on McCain/Obama)
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in case you missed it, the thread title is with every post in this thread. if you'd like, start a thread about obama's tax-related lies.
Why should he/she? It's entirely relevant to your little diatribe that Obama is engaging in precisely the same type of rhetoric. (In fact, he's probably better at it!) If there were a Truth in Posting Act, the title of this thread would actually be: Ron's "Pattern of Deceit" in Discussing McCain and Obama Post of the Day
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#1069321 - 10/23/08 03:48 PM
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You have the nerve to tell a new poster who has immediately recognized your blinders what does that have to do with: "McCain's "Pattern of Deceit" (in Tax Arguments)"? the rest of your post doesn't discuss the issue either. go figure, right?
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