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#1564434 - 06/14/11 02:48 PM What's your definition of a completed application
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Anyone care to share what your FI's definition of a completed application is?
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#1564438 - 06/14/11 02:54 PM Re: What's your definition of a completed application Mrs. Rizzo
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#1564526 - 06/14/11 04:20 PM Re: What's your definition of a completed application Dan Persfull
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So, would you think it a little far fetched to wait on an appraisal to have a "completed application"?
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#1564539 - 06/14/11 04:19 PM Re: What's your definition of a completed application Mrs. Rizzo
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What is the context of your question and what type of loan are we talking about. Are you talking what triggers disclosures, what contitutes an application for a notice of incompleteness, is this RESPA related? We really need more information. Since an appraisal is under control of the bank, I can't imagine how this plays much of a role.
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#1564580 - 06/14/11 04:55 PM Re: What's your definition of a completed application rlcarey
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Rizzo, if you're talking RESPA application to give disclosures then an application would be viewed as a verification document. RESPA is very explicit that you cannot require those before giving the GFE.

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#1564587 - 06/14/11 05:01 PM Re: What's your definition of a completed application Truffle Royale
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Completed Application under Regulation B. Sorry!
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#1564607 - 06/14/11 05:09 PM Re: What's your definition of a completed application Mrs. Rizzo
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An incomplete application is normally based on information that the applicant provides. You wouldn't send a notice of incomplete application if you where missing an appraisal as that is in the bank's control. You might send them a notice of incompleteness if you contracted for the pre-payment of the appraisal fee and they had not provided it.
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#1564642 - 06/14/11 05:45 PM Re: What's your definition of a completed application rlcarey
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Prior to me, the decision was made to let each division define what they considered a completed application. For one, they chose blah blah blah and the appraisal. I think that's a little far fetched and I'm sure they thought that would buy them more time.
I want to push to have a completed application be those items we need from the applicant to move towards a credit decision. Thoughts?
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#1564668 - 06/14/11 06:01 PM Re: What's your definition of a completed application Mrs. Rizzo
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Originally Posted By: Rizzo
So, would you think it a little far fetched to wait on an appraisal to have a "completed application"?

Absolutely! You receive an application and THEN you verify it. An appraisal is a verification document (for all regs - not just RESPA).

I taught a webinar on 6/2/11 for BOL on the topic of Applications. This was one of the most important sub-topics discussed in this webinar. Here's a link to BOL store where you can find more info:
http://www.bankersonline.com/bankerstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1103

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#1564670 - 06/14/11 06:03 PM Re: What's your definition of a completed application Mrs. Rizzo
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Originally Posted By: Rizzo
Prior to me, the decision was made to let each division define what they considered a completed application. For one, they chose blah blah blah and the appraisal. I think that's a little far fetched and I'm sure they thought that would buy them more time.
I want to push to have a completed application be those items we need from the applicant to move towards a credit decision. Thoughts?

Reg B defines what an application and completed application are [refer to §202.2(f)]. A bank can't make up their own definition.

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#1564672 - 06/14/11 06:11 PM Re: What's your definition of a completed application David Dickinson
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Ooooh!!! That will be an awesome way to bring this subject up!!
Thank you BOL Gurus smile
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