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#1846093 - 08/26/13 09:40 PM Points and Fees Cannot Be Financed question
Kim M. Offline
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The High Cost rule says points and fees cannot be financed into the loan amount. So does this mean the customer has to pay the point or for example: an origination fee in cash at closing in order to get their loan??????????

Thanks, Kim

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#1846098 - 08/26/13 09:51 PM Re: Points and Fees Cannot Be Financed question Kim M.
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Yes, that is exactly what it means.
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#1846100 - 08/26/13 09:57 PM Re: Points and Fees Cannot Be Financed question Kim M.
Kim M. Offline
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yikes!!!! thanks for your help...

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#1846416 - 08/27/13 07:58 PM Re: Points and Fees Cannot Be Financed question Kim M.
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Is this for only loans that are considered high cost? If a loan is NOT high cost, can the points and fees still be financed?

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#1847606 - 08/30/13 12:54 PM Re: Points and Fees Cannot Be Financed question Kim M.
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That's my understanding...
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#1849192 - 09/05/13 07:59 PM Re: Points and Fees Cannot Be Financed question Kim M.
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The prohibition of financing points and fees under [§1026.34(a)(10)] only applies to high cost mortgage loans.
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#1865336 - 10/28/13 01:50 AM Re: Points and Fees Cannot Be Financed question Kim M.
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High cost being HOEPA not just HPML?
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#1865478 - 10/28/13 03:43 PM Re: Points and Fees Cannot Be Financed question Kim M.
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It applies to loans that are high cost mortgage loans under section 1026.32 (sometimes referred to as HOEPA loans). If high cost mortgage status is triggered by the section 32 rate or point triggers, points and fees can't be financed. A high cost mortgage loan can also be an HPML, in which case the prohibition on financing points and fees would still apply because of the HCML status.
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