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#1894272 - 02/06/14 03:39 PM
[SURVEY] When do you FP? 1,30,45
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Day 1 of existing policy expiration Day 30 to eliminate the 15 day gap Day 45
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#1894317 - 02/06/14 04:37 PM
Re: [SURVEY] When do you FP? 1,30,45
Norman Paperman
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#1894411 - 02/06/14 06:32 PM
Re: [SURVEY] When do you FP? 1,30,45
Norman Paperman
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With the new 30-day waiting period requirements we changed our procedures and we force place on the 1st business day after the policy expires. We do not charge until day 46.
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#1895232 - 02/09/14 03:01 PM
Re: [SURVEY] When do you FP? 1,30,45
Norman Paperman
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I agree with Dan. If you are force placing on day 46 you are going to have a 45 day gap in any sort of flood insurance coverage.
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#1898365 - 02/19/14 10:57 PM
Re: [SURVEY] When do you FP? 1,30,45
Norman Paperman
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171 views and only 21 votes. Contributions are more helpful. 
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#1900219 - 02/26/14 06:13 PM
Re: [SURVEY] When do you FP? 1,30,45
Norman Paperman
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OCC just today told me that we can force place and charge the borrower on day one.
You might want to clarify this statement, as it is wrong as it currently stands. You cannot charge them until day 46, however you can charge them for any period of time that the policy has been in place including going back to day one.
This was all explained in Financial Institution Letter, FIL-14-2013, March 29, 2013
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#1901000 - 02/28/14 01:40 PM
Re: [SURVEY] When do you FP? 1,30,45
Norman Paperman
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What portion of this sentence do they not understand??
If the borrower fails to purchase flood insurance within 45 days after notification, the lender or servicer must purchase flood insurance on behalf of the borrower and may charge the borrower for the cost of premiums and fees incurred by the lender or servicer.
You can charge them at that time for any period of time (day 1 or day 45 or anything in between).
Besides, what do they care when you charge them? Charging them on day 46 is not a violation regardless.
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#1902446 - 03/05/14 05:07 PM
Re: [SURVEY] When do you FP? 1,30,45
Norman Paperman
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Our force placed insurance policy becomes effective immediately. So why would we force place on day 1 and not day 31 if the original policy has a 30 day window after expiration? wouldn' that ensure that we had coverage at all times but not double coverage for the 30 days after expiration?
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#1902453 - 03/05/14 05:26 PM
Re: [SURVEY] When do you FP? 1,30,45
Norman Paperman
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How you manage this process, as long as you are force placing timely, is up to you. Why would you force place in your case - no reason. If you were using a standard NFIP policy or the MPPP program, they have a 30 day wait period, so if you wanted to protect the bank from loss, you need to time the process accordingly.
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