Didn't Trent Dilfer state on an ESPN analysis of the whole event that literally every quarterback has a routine with the balls each week (my goodness that sounds bad)in which they do various things to them (this is getting worse) in order to enhance their play? I recall him stating that whether it's shaving, softening, etc. every quarterback in the NFL now, then, forever, has a routine in which they attempt to alter the ball in some way shape or form.

Happy, I said 15 years. And just because A.J. Feeley says today that it happened 11 years ago doesn't prove anything happened 11 years ago.

Why is he just now bringing it up?

Brad Johnson admits to scuffing his balls up in 2002. Where is the outrage?

Aaron Rodgers admits liking his balls to be over the 13.5 psi. Where is the outrage?

Fact is, PSI has been in the rule book since at least the 1940's but has never been something the NFL even paid close attention to until it decided to make an example of the Patriots.

Even as late as last season when both the Panthers and Vikings were televised heating balls on the sidelines during a particularly frigid game, the league simply told them to stop doing that. Where is the outrage?

Didn't Trent Dilfer state on an ESPN analysis of the whole event that literally every quarterback has a routine with the balls each week (my goodness that sounds bad)in which they do various things to them (this is getting worse) in order to enhance their play? I recall him stating that whether it's shaving, softening, etc. every quarterback in the NFL now, then, forever, has a routine in which they attempt to alter the ball in some way shape or form.

And by the way, the Cheatriots thing is definitely not original. Urban Dictionary from 2007: www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheatriots In fact, it's pretty old and worn out by now.

And aren't the Saints guilty of some "cheating" themselves in their recent past?

And how about the Falcons and Browns.

And didn't the Seahawks have a lot of issues with PEDs? And how about salary cap cheating by the Broncos?

Sure, the "everyone does it" doesn't make it right. But you'd be hard pressed to find a team in competitive sports that hasn't tripped up on rules violations in some form or another by intentionally trying to find a competitive edge.

doesn't mean it didn't, either


because he is looking to resurrect a broadcasting career?


i'm working on my outrage now


liking it and doing it are 2 different things...if they prove he does it, i'll up my "who cares" to a "mild outrage"


hmmm...crux of the argument?


heating is not an issue unless it alters the PSI above/below approved levels.

darn, and here I was thinking I was an original


yep, there was an accusation that was overturned on appeal against the players. likely the coaches/GM would have been overturned as well but they don't have a collective bargaining agreement that allows an appeal.


I believe you are correct

not familiar with either of these


not sure I understand the point here unless it is to say we should just ignore it because everyone does it even if it doesn't make it right

In this way, professional sports is certainly symptomatic of our society in general, from companies to individuals.

And we've seen it happen even in Little League baseball.

Technically he still didn't get caught. He "probably" got caught.

We all fall short of the glory, no doubt about that. But we should strive to live by the rules and play fair, whether you are in t-ball or in the pros.

Happy, I said 15 years. And just because A.J. Feeley says today that it happened 11 years ago doesn't prove anything happened 11 years ago. Why is he just now bringing it up? Brad Johnson admits to scuffing his balls up in 2002. Where is the outrage? Aaron Rodgers admits liking his balls to be over the 13.5 psi. Where is the outrage? Fact is, PSI has been in the rule book since at least the 1940's but has never been something the NFL even paid close attention to until it decided to make an example of the Patriots. Even as late as last season when both the Panthers and Vikings were televised heating balls on the sidelines during a particularly frigid game, the league simply told them to stop doing that. Where is the outrage?