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#2274659 - 08/24/22 06:51 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
Carol Hopper
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i'll tell you what they told us, if you do not use clarifying terms to state presented items for the 1st time, and represented for subsequent, you have a UDAP issue.
to identify an ACH, it must say "RETRYPYMT" or "REDEPCHECK" in the company entry description, per Nacha rules.
and the maximum number of reprensentment tries is 3, a combination of check and ach.
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#2274663 - 08/24/22 08:15 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
Carol Hopper
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When changing the disclosures and delivering them to current and new customers - is it required to send a whole new TISA or is it okay to send just the "common features disclosure" that has our fees listed. Our TISA does reference the customer to this document to communicate the fees. We use BPM with FISERV for our disclosures.
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#2274669 - 08/24/22 09:22 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
Carol Hopper
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I disagree. The TISA requirement in 1030.4(b)(4) says "(4) Fees. The amount of any fee that may be imposed in connection with the account (or an explanation of how the fee will be determined) and the conditions under which the fee may be imposed."
The FDIC considers it unfair that the OD/NSF fee disclosure does not adequately disclose the condition that a fee will be charged for the same item if it is presented for payment multiple times.
The change in terms does not have to include the entire TISA. If you elect to provide a new TISA, then you must highlight the fee disclosure in some way so the consumer can see what is changing.
OFFICIAL INTERPRETATION OF SECTION Section 1030.5--Subsequent Disclosures (a) Change in terms.
(a)(1) Advance notice required.
1. Form of notice. Institutions may provide a change-in-term notice on or with a periodic statement or in another mailing. If an institution provides notice through revised account disclosures, the changed term must be highlighted in some manner. For example, institutions may note that a particular fee has been changed (also specifying the new amount) or use an accompanying letter that refers to the changed term.
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#2274674 - 08/24/22 10:18 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
Carol Hopper
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1030.4(b)(4) is a term required to be disclosed under Sec. 1030.4(b) [...]". If we are changing the conditions of how/when a fee is imposed and it results in more fees being charged (multiple fees for one item vs. one fee for one item) that requires a change in terms.
The FDIC Supervisory Guidance makes this pretty clear.
"Promptly correct NSF fee disclosures and account agreements for both existing and new customers, including providing revised disclosures and agreements to all customers; "
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#2274685 - 08/25/22 12:30 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
Carol Hopper
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We currently have the required language (at least I believe it's the correct language) in our Deposit Account Agreement. During a recent UDAAP review, they mentioned to us that another client of theirs was just hit during an FDIC exam because it was not listed in other disclosures. We were advised to add the same language to our fee disclosure and our EFT disclosure. This was before the supervisory guidance came out from FDIC. Our reviewer stated their other client was required to go back 2 years and refund any additional fees (by the way, this client of theirs also had the same language we have in our Deposit Account Agreement, in their Deposit Account Agreement). FDIC stated it was not enough.
We have an FDIC exam coming up in October and we are currently working on our request list. I have added the language suggested to our fee disclosure (our TIS disclosures already state "see our fee disclosure for additional fees) and I am working on getting it added to our EFT disclosure. Our forms vendor isn't moving as quickly as I would like.
I guess we will see what happens in October. They already mentioned in our pre-exam phone call that re-presentment would be a big thing being looked at.
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#2274692 - 08/25/22 01:52 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
Carol Hopper
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How are you addressing the "unfair" aspect of the new FDIC guidance? I'm specifically looking at these sections:
Unfair Practices: In certain circumstances, a failure to adequately advise customers of fee practices for re-presentments raises unfairness concerns because the practices may result in substantial injuries to customers; the injury may not be reasonably avoidable; and there may be no countervailing benefits to either customers or competition. In particular, a risk of unfairness may be present if multiple NSF fees are assessed for the same transaction in a short period of time without sufficient notice or opportunity for customers to bring their account to a positive balance in order to avoid the assessment of additional NSF fees. While revising disclosures may address the risk of deception, doing so may not fully address the unfairness risks.
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Reviewing customer notification or alert practices related to NSF transactions and the timing of fees to ensure customers are provided with an ability to effectively avoid multiple fees for re-presented items, including restoring their account balance to a sufficient amount before subsequent NSF fees are assessed.
Any idea what sufficient notice to restore account balance before subsequent fees are assessed might be?
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#2274710 - 08/25/22 04:36 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
Carol Hopper
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Anyone that's examined by someone that's not the FDIC heard of the unfairness test being used for properly disclosed representment fees?
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#2274713 - 08/25/22 04:55 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
Inherent_Risk
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For those of you who are considering not charging multiple presentment NSF fees, will you do this for consumer and commercial accounts or just consumer? The Guidance is not clear, but I know UDAAP covers both.
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#2274740 - 08/25/22 07:12 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
Carol Hopper
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There is always the option of doing away with the fee. Before spending any time on updating disclosures, it would seem logical to know what fee income is generated before making a decision. Fees may being waived and the bank may not be generating much income.
As for ACH transactions, "to identify an ACH, it must say "RETRYPYMT" or "REDEPCHECK" in the company entry description, per Nacha rules." My understanding is that merchants do not always enter the code.
In Fairness hit the nail on the head. There is still a perception of unfairness in all of this even if you change your disclosures to clarify that the customer will be charged for a re-presented item.
"Reviewing customer notification or alert practices related to NSF transactions and the timing of fees to ensure customers are provided with an ability to effectively avoid multiple fees for re-presented items, including restoring their account balance to a sufficient amount before subsequent NSF fees are assessed."
What is in place to let customers know they need to make a deposit?
Consider that many large banks have completely done away with NSF fees.
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#2274747 - 08/25/22 07:39 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
Carol Hopper
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Throwing in my two cents - we are also looking at how to handle these. We are updating disclosures to state "you MAY be charged", and we are also implementing a manual process for trying to find re-presentments so that we can waive the NSF fees on them. As stated above, not all re-presented items are properly coded, so the manual process for seeking them out is very tedious.
Management has considered the possibility of waiving all NSF fees, but we do not have an OD program, so we do not obtain opt-in. I see a big UDAAP problem with waiving NSF but not OD fees, given it's the bank who chooses whether we pay an item or not - the customer doesn't usually have the option to choose. Management isn't ready to implement a formal OD program, nor are they ready to waive all OD and NSF fees.
Sticky. Our next FDIC exam should be sometime in the next 6-9 months; we're doing what we can to complete a lookback (manually!), update disclosures, and implement (manual!) processes to prevent future NSF on re-presented items. Oh - and also pressure our core provider to come up with something to help (thanks for the comments above to that effect).
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#2274762 - 08/25/22 08:41 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
Carol Hopper
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As for ACH transactions, "to identify an ACH, it must say "RETRYPYMT" or "REDEPCHECK" in the company entry description, per Nacha rules." My understanding is that merchants do not always enter the code. then the originator (merchant) is in violation of the Nacha rules. however, as the RDFI, you would have no way outside of the above to discern represented items.
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#2275160 - 09/06/22 01:45 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
Carol Hopper
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Anyone had any feedback from their regulator as far as business accounts are concerned?
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#2275169 - 09/06/22 03:36 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
Carol Hopper
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FDIC Compliance exam coming last week of September. FDIC warned me on phone they will be taking a hard look at overdraft fees. Bank changed OD disclosures about a year ago to define exactly what we do and what we charge a fee for. Our core data processor is looking into how to tell re-presentments from initial presentments, per data processor and our lead of operations at bank it is very difficult to discern this on face value; especially if someone uses lets say pay-pal for multiple $50 transactions for gambling. Bank is Ad Hoc with no opt in or out. I will try to let y'all know how exam turns out if I survive.
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#2275173 - 09/06/22 04:16 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
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Anyone had any feedback from their regulator as far as business accounts are concerned? yep - ALL accounts must be reviewed, consumer and business
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#2276313 - 10/04/22 04:27 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
HappyGilmore
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If possible to capture, we are considering calling customers when we receive a represented item. But wouldn’t that run afoul of the Telephone Consumer Protection Act since it's not related to fraud, identity theft, or information breach (if we don’t have preconsent)?
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#2276320 - 10/04/22 05:27 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
Sheldon Hendrix
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The FDIC incorporated the CFPB UDAAP exam manual into their consumer compliance exam manual as a resource for examiners.
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#2276354 - 10/04/22 08:35 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
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If possible to capture, we are considering calling customers when we receive a represented item. But wouldn’t that run afoul of the Telephone Consumer Protection Act since it's not related to fraud, identity theft, or information breach (if we don’t have preconsent)? calling them for what purpose?
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#2276380 - 10/05/22 01:28 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
HappyGilmore
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It’s a consideration for timely customer notification or alerts to assist in providing an ability for them to avoid multiple fees on the representments.
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#2276384 - 10/05/22 01:55 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
Carol Hopper
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Bottomline is you cannot charge them another OD fee for a representment - I am at a loss as to what a call is going to do?
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#2276406 - 10/05/22 05:22 PM
Re: Supervisory Guidance- Represent OD/NSF Fees
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The problem is that even with that policy, at this point, some core processor haven’t provided releases to capture when items are represented. Also, I understand that some merchants don’t always return ACH items with the correct does. So we are trying to address the unfair practices of the FDIC guidance that states “In particular, a risk of unfairness may be present if multiple NSF fees are assessed for the same transaction in a short period of time without sufficient notice or opportunity for customers to bring their account to a positive balance in order to avoid the assessment of additional NSF fees. While revising disclosures may address the risk of deception, doing so may not fully address the unfairness risksâ€
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