Thread Options
|
#2295108 - 03/25/24 12:40 PM
Reconsideration of Value
|
Platinum Poster
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 661
|
Good morning,
Just wondering how other lenders are handling this guidance. Are you sending a form along with the copy of the appraisal to the borrowers? I am assuming this would apply to commercial borrowers as well as it is ECOA. Last I knew comments were due by September, but I don't recall hearing an mandatory compliance date....
_________________________
If at first you do succeed....try something harder -fortune cookie
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2295110 - 03/25/24 01:07 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
10K Club
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 84,530
Galveston, TX
|
As far as I am aware there has been no further action after the proposal. I am unable to find the proposal in the unified agenda.
_________________________
The opinions expressed here should not be construed to be those of my employer: PPDocs.com
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2295111 - 03/25/24 01:38 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
Platinum Poster
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 574
Petersburg, VA
|
Back in 2022 we incorporated some of the language from the CFPB's blog post in our appraisal cover letter, telling the applicant "how" to ask for a reconsideration. ( https://www.consumerfinance.gov/abo...gh-the-reconsideration-of-value-process/) Given the FFIEC's statement on examination principles released last month, we are working on updating our procedures and appraisal review checklist to review appraisals for any potentially discriminatory practices, results, or keywords. We've also provided additional training for those handling/reviewing appraisals on appraisal bias.
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2295130 - 03/25/24 06:00 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
Platinum Poster
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 661
|
Thank you both. I was afraid I missed something. I am thinking once we get final word, there may be some timeline guidance provided.
_________________________
If at first you do succeed....try something harder -fortune cookie
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2295484 - 04/03/24 02:16 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
Gold Star
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 470
Cape Cod
|
Remember this advisory from Freddie Mac? While your bank may not be selling loans to Freddie, there are hints in Freddie's message for things to look for in an appraisal that may suggest problems.
_________________________
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2295833 - 04/11/24 09:15 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
Platinum Poster
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 731
Tennessee
|
In the proposed guidance....it specifies "consumer" over and over. We are planning to roll out ROV procedures limiting it to consumer purpose loans until final guidance is released. Consumer purpose loans secured by 1-4 residential real estate will receive an ROV notice with other early disclosures. I don't see how we can be criticized....first it's guidance; second it's proposed guidance.....
Am I way off here??
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2295839 - 04/12/24 11:46 AM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
10K Club
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 84,530
Galveston, TX
|
Sounds like a plan to me.
_________________________
The opinions expressed here should not be construed to be those of my employer: PPDocs.com
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2295868 - 04/12/24 04:59 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
Platinum Poster
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 731
Tennessee
|
Thank you for chiming in, Randy....confirmation from you BOL Gurus always helps to put my mind at ease!!!!!!! THANKS!!!
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2296863 - 05/06/24 07:13 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
10K Club
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 84,530
Galveston, TX
|
I know the disclosures will be required for applications beginning August 29, 2024.
Where have you seen that?
_________________________
The opinions expressed here should not be construed to be those of my employer: PPDocs.com
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2296904 - 05/07/24 04:07 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
10K Club
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 84,530
Galveston, TX
|
Oh - you are talking about a secondary market requirement and not an agency requirement. That explains it.
_________________________
The opinions expressed here should not be construed to be those of my employer: PPDocs.com
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2296911 - 05/07/24 05:24 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
Gold Star
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 470
Cape Cod
|
I suppose it should go without saying that lenders will not be charging for ROVs. But there, I said it anyhow.
_________________________
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2296976 - 05/08/24 08:40 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
Diamond Poster
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,709
48.934476, -114.343735
|
Thoughts on this disclosure language?
"You have the right to request that we reconsider the value given in your appraisal. A reconsideration of value may include consideration of comparable properties not previously identified, property characteristics, or other information about the property that you believe were incorrectly reported or not reported. If you feel we should reconsider the value given in your appraisal, please contact your loan officer."
FYI- this question has already arrived in our latest pre-exam request.
_________________________
Maybe you just wanna fly the plane yourself. Well good luck pressing take off, then auto pilot, then land.
CRCM
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2296987 - 05/09/24 04:03 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
10K Club
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 84,530
Galveston, TX
|
That might be OK for a general disclosure on portfolio loans to the borrower, but it fails to give them the instructions regarding the specific requirements for submitting a ROV under the FNMA guidance.
_________________________
The opinions expressed here should not be construed to be those of my employer: PPDocs.com
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2296999 - 05/09/24 06:33 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
Diamond Poster
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,709
48.934476, -114.343735
|
Thanks, Randy. Yes, we are just getting ahead of the curve on this for portfolio loans. We don't do any secondary market deals. All internal portfolio loans.
_________________________
Maybe you just wanna fly the plane yourself. Well good luck pressing take off, then auto pilot, then land.
CRCM
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2297000 - 05/09/24 07:03 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
Power Poster
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 9,250
OK
|
So....any word on when this actually takes effect...the final rule?
_________________________
I'm fixin' to fix that.
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2297001 - 05/09/24 07:13 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
10K Club
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 84,530
Galveston, TX
|
Outside of the FNMA requirements, there is no word from the prudential regulators. Last I looked it was not even on their calendars.
_________________________
The opinions expressed here should not be construed to be those of my employer: PPDocs.com
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2297006 - 05/09/24 08:00 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
Power Poster
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 9,250
OK
|
Thank you Randy.
_________________________
I'm fixin' to fix that.
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2297042 - 05/10/24 02:36 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
Diamond Poster
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,709
48.934476, -114.343735
|
So- I had another banker reach out and ask why I was implementing if not a FHMA seller. We are an FDIC shop scheduled for an exam later this year and the question of how we handle ROVs was listed on the questionnaire.
I've been through many exams over the years and this was the first time I've seen the topic on a pre-exam questionnaire. So, trying to get ahead of what I assume is an expectation.
_________________________
Maybe you just wanna fly the plane yourself. Well good luck pressing take off, then auto pilot, then land.
CRCM
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2297043 - 05/10/24 02:43 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
10K Club
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 84,530
Galveston, TX
|
"the question of how we handle ROVs was listed on the questionnaire."
Well, yes. Every bank should have ROV policies and procedures. But there is no current regulatory requirement for any specific disclosure to be made to borrowers at this time.
_________________________
The opinions expressed here should not be construed to be those of my employer: PPDocs.com
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2297046 - 05/10/24 03:13 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
Diamond Poster
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,709
48.934476, -114.343735
|
I've been pretty naive, then. I've worked mostly for smaller community banks ~$1B and honestly never heard the term ROV until the guidance came out.
Completely plausible that I dodged a bullet by never having a policy (formal or otherwise). Also never heard about it from regulators until now.
_________________________
Maybe you just wanna fly the plane yourself. Well good luck pressing take off, then auto pilot, then land.
CRCM
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2297047 - 05/10/24 03:27 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
10K Club
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 84,530
Galveston, TX
|
Well, it has been almost a year since the release of the proposal. "Highlights how financial institutions may create or enhance existing ROV processes that are consistent with safety and soundness standards, comply with applicable laws and regulation (including nondiscrimination requirements), preserve appraiser independence, and remain responsive to consumers." https://www.fdic.gov/news/financial-institution-letters/2023/fil23030.html
_________________________
The opinions expressed here should not be construed to be those of my employer: PPDocs.com
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2298065 - 06/07/24 05:29 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
Member
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 53
|
Is it allowable to combine the initial ROV disclosure notice with the right to receive a copy of an appraisal notice or do they have to be separate notices?
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
#2298066 - 06/07/24 05:38 PM
Re: Reconsideration of Value
Luv2run
|
10K Club
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 84,530
Galveston, TX
|
The only current requirement for a notice is under the GSE rules that go into effect the end of August. There is no mention about segregation. But the appraisal notice is required within three business days and this disclosure is required at the time of application.
_________________________
The opinions expressed here should not be construed to be those of my employer: PPDocs.com
|
Return to Top
|
|
|
|
|
|