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#2298436 - 06/18/24 06:32 PM CTRs on fraudulent transactions
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We had a fraudster cash a check on one of our customers for over 10K. we are filing a SAR however do we still need to file a CTR in this case? the ID used was falsified ID. I'm not sure if the SAR supersedes the CTR in this case.

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#2298438 - 06/18/24 06:41 PM Re: CTRs on fraudulent transactions MPBSA
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CTR and SAR filing requirements are not related.
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#2298454 - 06/18/24 07:33 PM Re: CTRs on fraudulent transactions MPBSA
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There was a time, decades ago, when you could submit a CTR and check a box on the CTR indicating your sense that the transaction was suspicious. But now, as Randy indicated, the two are not related.

I'll qualify that just a bit, though. If you suspect that someone has structured a transaction or transactions in an attempt to avoid the filing of a CTR, submission of a SAR is appropriate.
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#2298498 - 06/20/24 12:48 PM Re: CTRs on fraudulent transactions MPBSA
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We had a similar experience. You file the CTR with the information the fraudster gave you.

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